tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1176979512698973580.post5297310635293132529..comments2023-08-22T02:51:34.838-07:00Comments on Treasons, Stratagems & Spoils: the failures of civilisationroswithahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05506297391055117723noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1176979512698973580.post-86720611197290853052008-05-13T06:59:00.000-07:002008-05-13T06:59:00.000-07:00I think that what you have here is conclusive proo...I think that what you have here is conclusive proof of the fact that if you allow film stars and industrialists to determine a club's choices in a player draft, they will produce less than optimal results.<BR/><BR/>To introduce yet another American-born concept, that basic fact should have been apparent to anyone who has ever participated in a "fantasy league".<BR/><BR/>The intrinsic issue is ursus arctoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17341666158627733792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1176979512698973580.post-43285464660468380962008-05-12T02:08:00.000-07:002008-05-12T02:08:00.000-07:00@Abby: It is indeed an auction, and I don't know i...@Abby: It is indeed an auction, and I don't know if any holds are barred. It's pretty mad. Thank you for the outline of life in American sport. <BR/><BR/>@ Aditya: Thanks! I'd heard of that, and it doesn't surprise me one bit. <BR/><BR/>@Brian: Charismatic executives? So, like, the owners get more attention than the coaches? That is *so* IPL [...and la Liga and Serie A, compared to the EPL, in roswithahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05506297391055117723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1176979512698973580.post-35584771295520274782008-05-07T18:49:00.000-07:002008-05-07T18:49:00.000-07:00Like abby and Brian said, having revenue sharing a...Like abby and Brian said, having revenue sharing and a salary cap defintely even things out. Like they said, our sports are weird. <BR/><BR/>Having parity in the league can be a good and bad thing. On one hand, a lack of parity can focus attention on a few recongizable teams/players. Personally, I think the EPL has benifitted overseas from having the "big four". This could add some character Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1176979512698973580.post-53175144751391829482008-05-07T14:24:00.000-07:002008-05-07T14:24:00.000-07:00I'd argue that the draft system has less to do wit...I'd argue that the draft system has less to do with the egalitarian character of American leagues than the salary cap/revenue-sharing system does. When teams share profits roughly equally, and are prohibited from spending more than a certain sum on salaries, then success often becomes a matter of assembling affordable talent. And so it tends to be hard to sustain over time, because once your teamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1176979512698973580.post-25811689177925490562008-05-07T13:01:00.000-07:002008-05-07T13:01:00.000-07:00Actually Lalit Modi and his cronies are set to rem...Actually Lalit Modi and his cronies are set to remove the wage cap next season onwards. If this season appears vulgar, next season will make this look noble by comparison. <BR/><BR/>Have a read: <A HREF="http://in.sports.yahoo.com/080506/43/6tflw.html" REL="nofollow">Link</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1176979512698973580.post-40861855611585318412008-05-07T12:52:00.000-07:002008-05-07T12:52:00.000-07:00Yeah. As a casual observer, what the draft system ...Yeah. As a casual observer, what the draft system does is create dominance for a time, but that fades. A team may completely dominate for two or three years in a row, but as their stars fade it's harder to get new ones in. There isn't the same storied history as before. The difference with the IPL, I assume, is that their "draft" is an auction. In a US-style draft, the worst team in the league voellighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13678715014038866363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1176979512698973580.post-64896656957686498732008-05-07T12:30:00.000-07:002008-05-07T12:30:00.000-07:00Exist to a greater extent than they already do*, I...Exist to a greater extent than they already do*, I mean.roswithahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05506297391055117723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1176979512698973580.post-35655051043027172792008-05-07T12:25:00.000-07:002008-05-07T12:25:00.000-07:00That didn't cross my mind at all, thank you for th...That didn't cross my mind at all, thank you for that. What I know about the business models of American sport can -- well, let's just say you've taught me more in one comment than I knew before. I think the comparison is close in the current avatar: it's a closed system, an auction/draft is in place, and for now there are salary caps that ensure that the teams with the most money don't roswithahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05506297391055117723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1176979512698973580.post-13086458012393943782008-05-07T12:01:00.000-07:002008-05-07T12:01:00.000-07:00Knowing nothing of the IPL, I do wonder if their b...Knowing nothing of the IPL, I do wonder if their business model is more American-style. Which does ensure a certain amount of "fairness" in among all its flaws- one can expect, in a cycle of ten years or so, for your team to do well eventually. That we have one league for our sports (and therefore no competition from outside) combined with a highly developed draft system means that eventually, voellighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13678715014038866363noreply@blogger.com